Questions about the RoBoard-110 from a beginner

Based on DMP's Vortex processor / SoC this board is a full computer capable of running a standard Windows and Linux installation on the backpack of your robot.
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Questions about the RoBoard-110 from a beginner

Post by robonooby » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:00 am

Post by robonooby
Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:00 am

Hello
I am new here, I studi Bachelor of Engineering and I want built me a robot.
For this, I want to buy the RoBoard-110 and I had a few more questions about the board.
I want to install Windows XP on the board and want program in Visual Basic 2010, beacuse I can't C++
has anyone had positive experiences? The board is well suited for me as a beginner?

What about the use of the librarys? Can I use it in VB 2010?
Is it easy to program the Board in VB?
Hello
I am new here, I studi Bachelor of Engineering and I want built me a robot.
For this, I want to buy the RoBoard-110 and I had a few more questions about the board.
I want to install Windows XP on the board and want program in Visual Basic 2010, beacuse I can't C++
has anyone had positive experiences? The board is well suited for me as a beginner?

What about the use of the librarys? Can I use it in VB 2010?
Is it easy to program the Board in VB?
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Post by Spiked3 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:46 pm

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Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:46 pm

short answer; no.

long answer; just about everything I have seen in robotics these days is targeted at low level hardware tinkering. especially the roboards.

Try the legos nxt, and their visual programming. its not basic but it can do plenty and is much more suited for starting.

Things like the robonova have a form of basic in them, but it is very very limited, you might as well stick to visual programming. Otherwise a mixture of C and assembler is what you are going to end up with.

You also need to understand there really are two types of 'programming robots' - 1 version where your goal/method involves capturing or playing a sequence of poses. and #2 is a method where you program move to / navigate / run / avoid kind of things. and of course, far more advanced, is combining the two.

what you are asking - it can be done - but no one has done it (without writing their own hardware support) , or shared their code if they have. I have 30+ years experienced, am certified in VB and C#, and overall would consider myself pretty advanced. I think I could eventually do it, but it just wasn't worth the effort - so my roboard sits powered off and i'm on to other things that are just easier. what I'm trying to say is if you are highly motivated, you might succeed, but as a casual hobbyist, probably not.
short answer; no.

long answer; just about everything I have seen in robotics these days is targeted at low level hardware tinkering. especially the roboards.

Try the legos nxt, and their visual programming. its not basic but it can do plenty and is much more suited for starting.

Things like the robonova have a form of basic in them, but it is very very limited, you might as well stick to visual programming. Otherwise a mixture of C and assembler is what you are going to end up with.

You also need to understand there really are two types of 'programming robots' - 1 version where your goal/method involves capturing or playing a sequence of poses. and #2 is a method where you program move to / navigate / run / avoid kind of things. and of course, far more advanced, is combining the two.

what you are asking - it can be done - but no one has done it (without writing their own hardware support) , or shared their code if they have. I have 30+ years experienced, am certified in VB and C#, and overall would consider myself pretty advanced. I think I could eventually do it, but it just wasn't worth the effort - so my roboard sits powered off and i'm on to other things that are just easier. what I'm trying to say is if you are highly motivated, you might succeed, but as a casual hobbyist, probably not.
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Post by siempre.aprendiendo » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:15 am

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Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:15 am

You can use C# too.

But you have another possibility instead, at least as a first approach. Telecontrolling by bluetooth. Then you can use any language supported by the Operating System of your PC (or device)!

I have used it succesfully:

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You only need a PC (or any other device that support your loved language) with Bluetooth and a Bluetooth <-> serial converter.

The serial is connected to the CM-5/510 serial port in Toss Mode (included in the standard firmware).

By the way... With Mindstorms you can use Lejos, that is Java, a very nice language, or NXC IMHO far better that the Mindstorms NXT-G, language.
You can use C# too.

But you have another possibility instead, at least as a first approach. Telecontrolling by bluetooth. Then you can use any language supported by the Operating System of your PC (or device)!

I have used it succesfully:

Here
phpBB [media]


and here
phpBB [media]



You only need a PC (or any other device that support your loved language) with Bluetooth and a Bluetooth <-> serial converter.

The serial is connected to the CM-5/510 serial port in Toss Mode (included in the standard firmware).

By the way... With Mindstorms you can use Lejos, that is Java, a very nice language, or NXC IMHO far better that the Mindstorms NXT-G, language.
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Post by jpatek » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:17 pm

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Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:17 pm

While the RoBoard-110 can run XP, it runs Linux much better. I use a minimal install of Ubuntu server which runs fine. Instead of VB you might look at REALBasic which is very similar to VB6 but can cross-compile for Windoze/Mac/Linux. I have a couple of robots based on the RB-110 where most of their operating software is written in REALbasic. I recently posted a REALbasic wrapper to the RoBoIO Library on the REALbasic forum.
While the RoBoard-110 can run XP, it runs Linux much better. I use a minimal install of Ubuntu server which runs fine. Instead of VB you might look at REALBasic which is very similar to VB6 but can cross-compile for Windoze/Mac/Linux. I have a couple of robots based on the RB-110 where most of their operating software is written in REALbasic. I recently posted a REALbasic wrapper to the RoBoIO Library on the REALbasic forum.
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Post by roboard » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:01 am

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Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:01 am

jpatek wrote:...Instead of VB you might look at REALBasic which is very similar to VB6 but can cross-compile for Windoze/Mac/Linux. I have a couple of robots based on the RB-110 where most of their operating software is written in REALbasic. I recently posted a REALbasic wrapper to the RoBoIO Library on the REALbasic forum.


Hi jpatek,

to regard for your good work, if you want, you can post your warper to tech@roboard.com and we will put it on RoBoard website with your name.

:)
jpatek wrote:...Instead of VB you might look at REALBasic which is very similar to VB6 but can cross-compile for Windoze/Mac/Linux. I have a couple of robots based on the RB-110 where most of their operating software is written in REALbasic. I recently posted a REALbasic wrapper to the RoBoIO Library on the REALbasic forum.


Hi jpatek,

to regard for your good work, if you want, you can post your warper to tech@roboard.com and we will put it on RoBoard website with your name.

:)
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