Parallel Leg Mechanism Design Discussion

Discussions regarding building a walking robot at home. Most of the robots participating at Robo-One competitions are custom fabricated.
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Post by Tyberius » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:13 am

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Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:13 am

Heres another PLM humanoid I'm working on for the IRC2010 competition later this month. Uses 21x RX-24F and a new, unreleased Vanadium Labs ArbotiX controller. Not named as of yet:

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Heres another PLM humanoid I'm working on for the IRC2010 competition later this month. Uses 21x RX-24F and a new, unreleased Vanadium Labs ArbotiX controller. Not named as of yet:

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Leg closeup:

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Post by Ausrobo » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:50 am

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:50 am

Tyberius,

Work on my parallel leg design is moving very slowly. I still have a number of parts to make. I am very impressed with your latest design.

While doing a little testing it occurred to me that as the leg part is driven from both ends there is no real need for the parallel structure. The servos, by being in master/slave configuration, effectively produce the same movement as the introduction of the parallel element. Have you considered this in your design?

Peter
Tyberius,

Work on my parallel leg design is moving very slowly. I still have a number of parts to make. I am very impressed with your latest design.

While doing a little testing it occurred to me that as the leg part is driven from both ends there is no real need for the parallel structure. The servos, by being in master/slave configuration, effectively produce the same movement as the introduction of the parallel element. Have you considered this in your design?

Peter
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Post by Tyberius » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:17 am

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Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:17 am

Ausrobo wrote:Tyberius,

Work on my parallel leg design is moving very slowly. I still have a number of parts to make. I am very impressed with your latest design.

While doing a little testing it occurred to me that as the leg part is driven from both ends there is no real need for the parallel structure. The servos, by being in master/slave configuration, effectively produce the same movement as the introduction of the parallel element. Have you considered this in your design?

Peter


You don't have the option of offsetting the two paired servos slightly to reduce/eliminate backlash however, nor the physical structure to support that.
Ausrobo wrote:Tyberius,

Work on my parallel leg design is moving very slowly. I still have a number of parts to make. I am very impressed with your latest design.

While doing a little testing it occurred to me that as the leg part is driven from both ends there is no real need for the parallel structure. The servos, by being in master/slave configuration, effectively produce the same movement as the introduction of the parallel element. Have you considered this in your design?

Peter


You don't have the option of offsetting the two paired servos slightly to reduce/eliminate backlash however, nor the physical structure to support that.
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Post by mog123 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:13 am

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I've actually noticed something about IGNIS's design. It doesn't use 2 servos for bending the calf/hip. I don't see the sense in it's PLM design then. Isn't the idea to use 2 servos on a Y-cable to remove backlash and increase torque?
I've actually noticed something about IGNIS's design. It doesn't use 2 servos for bending the calf/hip. I don't see the sense in it's PLM design then. Isn't the idea to use 2 servos on a Y-cable to remove backlash and increase torque?
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Post by clockwork » Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:33 am

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This thread in the forum was a key reason I wanted to try a PLM design.
I've finished most of the fabrication for the lower body - but still have a ways to go on the rest of the robot.

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This thread in the forum was a key reason I wanted to try a PLM design.
I've finished most of the fabrication for the lower body - but still have a ways to go on the rest of the robot.

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Post by Tyberius » Thu May 12, 2011 5:04 pm

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Thu May 12, 2011 5:04 pm

clockwork wrote:This thread in the forum was a key reason I wanted to try a PLM design.
I've finished most of the fabrication for the lower body - but still have a ways to go on the rest of the robot.

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Just have to say, this is absolutely gorgeous. Can't wait to see more!
clockwork wrote:This thread in the forum was a key reason I wanted to try a PLM design.
I've finished most of the fabrication for the lower body - but still have a ways to go on the rest of the robot.

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Just have to say, this is absolutely gorgeous. Can't wait to see more!
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Post by Joe » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:34 am

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:34 am

Apologies for digging up an oldish thread... but I'm just now getting (back) into the hobby, and have stumbled across this very helpful info.

I discovered parallel linkage legs in Hitec, which did very well in this year's Robo-One contest with only 11 servos. That rocks. I'd like to do the same thing using RoboBuilder servos (mainly because I already have a lot of them — though I'm tempted to try the new UpTech servos too, because they're slightly stronger and cheaper).

So I'm starting the slow process of learning to design and fabricate my own brackets. Most of this is straightforward, if not easy for a software geek like me. But one thing I still don't know:

What are you guys using for the bearings in these things?

Seems to me that one leg has about 16 of these, and they need to be fairly small... and they're load-bearing, too. Is this just some combination of standard screws and washers, or are you using something more sophisticated?

Thanks,
- Joe
Apologies for digging up an oldish thread... but I'm just now getting (back) into the hobby, and have stumbled across this very helpful info.

I discovered parallel linkage legs in Hitec, which did very well in this year's Robo-One contest with only 11 servos. That rocks. I'd like to do the same thing using RoboBuilder servos (mainly because I already have a lot of them — though I'm tempted to try the new UpTech servos too, because they're slightly stronger and cheaper).

So I'm starting the slow process of learning to design and fabricate my own brackets. Most of this is straightforward, if not easy for a software geek like me. But one thing I still don't know:

What are you guys using for the bearings in these things?

Seems to me that one leg has about 16 of these, and they need to be fairly small... and they're load-bearing, too. Is this just some combination of standard screws and washers, or are you using something more sophisticated?

Thanks,
- Joe
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Post by mog123 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:09 pm

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:09 pm

I'm using bushes/mufs call them what you want. I've seen that most Japanese builders use them too. Other than that I've seen bearings(3x7x3) with a(1mm) flange that do the trick too
I'm using bushes/mufs call them what you want. I've seen that most Japanese builders use them too. Other than that I've seen bearings(3x7x3) with a(1mm) flange that do the trick too
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Post by MOHIT JINDAL » Wed May 09, 2012 3:59 am

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Wed May 09, 2012 3:59 am

Hi Tyberius,
You said Plm design give more torque.
Can i use 3 Ax12+ in each joint to get more torque ?
Like 3 Ax12 in knee joint and 6 in ankle joint each leg :roll:
Hi Tyberius,
You said Plm design give more torque.
Can i use 3 Ax12+ in each joint to get more torque ?
Like 3 Ax12 in knee joint and 6 in ankle joint each leg :roll:
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