Wondering which robot is right for me? ty!

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Wondering which robot is right for me? ty!

Post by Mathieas » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:25 am

Post by Mathieas
Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:25 am

Hey all,

I am a new robot enthusiast. I am looking for a robot to help me move forward with my interest in robotics. I would really like to have some automated actions/psudo AI. A HUGE bonus would be a robot with the ability to be remortly controlled from my computer while i am at work. I would also love if there was a robot with some sort of image recognition. I am looking primarily at humanoid robots(i need no other config).
I have been looking at the different KHR series robots(which of the KHR series would you recommend and why? is the -1 better then the 2HV or 3-HV in anyway? how about the 2HV?). I understand these do not have image recognition? or perhaps they do and i missed it? I read about some upgrade package that added a few pressure sensors and a camera to the 2HV is this also something that is out for the 3HV?(with all the different numbers and letter it is entirely possible i got this wrong)

I was also looking at the robot builder series. I noticed this bot has a much lower price tag. Why is this? what does it do worse or better then the KHR series? I did like that it came with an accelerometer and a distance IR cam(how would one use this?)... but no gyro? :(.

Thank you for your time and expertise.
Jonathan
Hey all,

I am a new robot enthusiast. I am looking for a robot to help me move forward with my interest in robotics. I would really like to have some automated actions/psudo AI. A HUGE bonus would be a robot with the ability to be remortly controlled from my computer while i am at work. I would also love if there was a robot with some sort of image recognition. I am looking primarily at humanoid robots(i need no other config).
I have been looking at the different KHR series robots(which of the KHR series would you recommend and why? is the -1 better then the 2HV or 3-HV in anyway? how about the 2HV?). I understand these do not have image recognition? or perhaps they do and i missed it? I read about some upgrade package that added a few pressure sensors and a camera to the 2HV is this also something that is out for the 3HV?(with all the different numbers and letter it is entirely possible i got this wrong)

I was also looking at the robot builder series. I noticed this bot has a much lower price tag. Why is this? what does it do worse or better then the KHR series? I did like that it came with an accelerometer and a distance IR cam(how would one use this?)... but no gyro? :(.

Thank you for your time and expertise.
Jonathan
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Post by PedroR » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:07 pm

Post by PedroR
Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:07 pm

Hi Mathieas

The more "modern" KHR is the 3HV which was the last one to be released.
It includes 17 Servos but can be expanded up to 25.
It is also the tallest in our catalog.

The 2HV is a smaller KHR with only 16 servos and uses previous generation Kondo technology (the servo protocol and controller board are different from the 3HV). It is still a great Robot though and significatly less expensiveve than the 3HV.


With regards to Robobuilder it is positioned a Value for Money platform. It has only 16 servos and Acc Sensor, Distance Sensor and Sound Sensor (not all Editions include the Acc Sensor though; make sure you check).

It offers a low cost in exchange for a fairly advanced set of features, especially the Red Edition Plus and the Blue Edition that can be remotelly controlled from an Android device nearby (via Bluetooth).

None of the Robots can be controlled remotely over the Internet.

In terms of Vision, again there are limited offers "out of the box" in this area. You can certainly build your own solution.

Comparing KHR with Robobuilder is hard because they are very different platforms. KHR is much more expensive but can be built into 25 Degrees of Freedom and has expansion pins to add Analogue Sensors. (including Accelerometer and Gyro) so it's much more expandable.

The Robobuilder has limited expansion capabilities: if you get the Red Edition Plus or Blue Edition they come with essentially all the Sensors available for these Robots.
In exchange it offers very nice libraries for programming/controlling it from the computer (.Net, Microsoft Robotics Studio and Serial Protocol - wired and wireless via Bluetooth)


Usually the answer is: if you come from an RC background you'll probably love Kondo KHR ; if you're more of a programmer we'd recommend Robobuilder.
(please note that Kondo has many of the instructions and part of the software in Japanese which some users like; others don't like so much. Robobuilder has all the software and manuals in English)

The investment in Robobuilder is also fairly reduced compared to other options so it's nice platform to start of you don't have a lot of experience in this area.

Regards
Pedro

PS: to clarify your question about Acceleration Sensor and Gyro, the Acceleration Sensor lets the Robot detect when it has fallen over (and which direction it has fallen) while the Gyro helps stibilize the Walk. The Gyro only gives readings when the Robot is walking (ie it won't knwo ift he Robot has fallen).
The ideal is combining the two.
Hi Mathieas

The more "modern" KHR is the 3HV which was the last one to be released.
It includes 17 Servos but can be expanded up to 25.
It is also the tallest in our catalog.

The 2HV is a smaller KHR with only 16 servos and uses previous generation Kondo technology (the servo protocol and controller board are different from the 3HV). It is still a great Robot though and significatly less expensiveve than the 3HV.


With regards to Robobuilder it is positioned a Value for Money platform. It has only 16 servos and Acc Sensor, Distance Sensor and Sound Sensor (not all Editions include the Acc Sensor though; make sure you check).

It offers a low cost in exchange for a fairly advanced set of features, especially the Red Edition Plus and the Blue Edition that can be remotelly controlled from an Android device nearby (via Bluetooth).

None of the Robots can be controlled remotely over the Internet.

In terms of Vision, again there are limited offers "out of the box" in this area. You can certainly build your own solution.

Comparing KHR with Robobuilder is hard because they are very different platforms. KHR is much more expensive but can be built into 25 Degrees of Freedom and has expansion pins to add Analogue Sensors. (including Accelerometer and Gyro) so it's much more expandable.

The Robobuilder has limited expansion capabilities: if you get the Red Edition Plus or Blue Edition they come with essentially all the Sensors available for these Robots.
In exchange it offers very nice libraries for programming/controlling it from the computer (.Net, Microsoft Robotics Studio and Serial Protocol - wired and wireless via Bluetooth)


Usually the answer is: if you come from an RC background you'll probably love Kondo KHR ; if you're more of a programmer we'd recommend Robobuilder.
(please note that Kondo has many of the instructions and part of the software in Japanese which some users like; others don't like so much. Robobuilder has all the software and manuals in English)

The investment in Robobuilder is also fairly reduced compared to other options so it's nice platform to start of you don't have a lot of experience in this area.

Regards
Pedro

PS: to clarify your question about Acceleration Sensor and Gyro, the Acceleration Sensor lets the Robot detect when it has fallen over (and which direction it has fallen) while the Gyro helps stibilize the Walk. The Gyro only gives readings when the Robot is walking (ie it won't knwo ift he Robot has fallen).
The ideal is combining the two.
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