KHR 3HV now available from Robosavvy

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KHR 3HV now available from Robosavvy

Post by PedroR » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:18 pm

Post by PedroR
Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:18 pm

Hi all

Robosavvy has now started pre sales for KHR 3HV.

The page is here with further details on the Robot and Accessories
http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... cts_id/554

Robots pre-ordered until next week should be delivered in the second half of August.

Also note the supply of KHR 3HV is very limited in Japan at this time. We were able to place a reservation on a small number of units for Europe so if you're interested please go ahead and order yours ;)

Regards
Pedro.
Hi all

Robosavvy has now started pre sales for KHR 3HV.

The page is here with further details on the Robot and Accessories
http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... cts_id/554

Robots pre-ordered until next week should be delivered in the second half of August.

Also note the supply of KHR 3HV is very limited in Japan at this time. We were able to place a reservation on a small number of units for Europe so if you're interested please go ahead and order yours ;)

Regards
Pedro.
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Post by Gort » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:25 pm

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Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:25 pm

I was wondering will the manuals and Heart to Heart 4 be in English?
I was wondering will the manuals and Heart to Heart 4 be in English?
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Post by PedroR » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:45 pm

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Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:45 pm

Hi

At the moment the information I have from them is this "are translating documents for KHR-3HV to English" (quoting the supplier).

I believe we'll be able to talk to them about having the H2H manual translated and see what they say although at this time they are really busy with the new release.

Regards
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Hi

At the moment the information I have from them is this "are translating documents for KHR-3HV to English" (quoting the supplier).

I believe we'll be able to talk to them about having the H2H manual translated and see what they say although at this time they are really busy with the new release.

Regards
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Post by Jacksonviii » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:16 am

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Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:16 am

Hi,

Any news regarding the translation of english manual and software?
Hi,

Any news regarding the translation of english manual and software?
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Post by PedroR » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:26 pm

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Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:26 pm

Hi Jacksonviii

So far we haven't received the final translation yet.

We have a few users using KHR 3HVs already though: nwhat they did was follow the pictures of the assembly procedure to get the robot up and running.

There are a couple of questions when connecting the KRI 3 and RAS / KRG sensors which we are glad to help you trough. Also, the english manuals for these accessories are very helpful.

After that most of the the work in calibrating and setting up the software is similar to previous KHRs and people have based their work on the English manuals for the 1HV and 2HV and the concepts for the software are the same.

Many English docs for previous KHR editions are available here http://robosavvy.com/RoboSavvyPages/Support/Kondo/

As I mentioned the English docs will become available. We just don't have a date yet.
Until then, if you want to get your hands on one of these, with a little extra effort, you are able to get it working (we have customers who have done it).

If not, you can also choose the KHR 1HV which is also a great robot, includes 19DOF standard, full english docs, and we're running a special price on it.

Pedro.
Hi Jacksonviii

So far we haven't received the final translation yet.

We have a few users using KHR 3HVs already though: nwhat they did was follow the pictures of the assembly procedure to get the robot up and running.

There are a couple of questions when connecting the KRI 3 and RAS / KRG sensors which we are glad to help you trough. Also, the english manuals for these accessories are very helpful.

After that most of the the work in calibrating and setting up the software is similar to previous KHRs and people have based their work on the English manuals for the 1HV and 2HV and the concepts for the software are the same.

Many English docs for previous KHR editions are available here http://robosavvy.com/RoboSavvyPages/Support/Kondo/

As I mentioned the English docs will become available. We just don't have a date yet.
Until then, if you want to get your hands on one of these, with a little extra effort, you are able to get it working (we have customers who have done it).

If not, you can also choose the KHR 1HV which is also a great robot, includes 19DOF standard, full english docs, and we're running a special price on it.

Pedro.
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Post by Jacksonviii » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:33 am

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Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:33 am

Hi PedroR

Thanks for the information. For ease of use, I'm just wondering if they would release an English version software. Anyway I will try my luck with the Japanese software and the document provided.
Hi PedroR

Thanks for the information. For ease of use, I'm just wondering if they would release an English version software. Anyway I will try my luck with the Japanese software and the document provided.
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Post by PedroR » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:44 am

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Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:44 am

Hi Jacksonvii

As I mentioned in my previous post we were informed by the international distributor there WILL be an English version of the docs and I believe software as well.

However we do not know when they will be available.

I believe this was the procedure with KHR 1HV and 2HV: they were first released in Japanese and the English resources were released at a later date.

As I mentioned we have a few customers who already got a KHR3HV and have successfully built it and programmed it using the Japanese instructions and the English translations available for 1HV and 2HV.

Pedro.
Hi Jacksonvii

As I mentioned in my previous post we were informed by the international distributor there WILL be an English version of the docs and I believe software as well.

However we do not know when they will be available.

I believe this was the procedure with KHR 1HV and 2HV: they were first released in Japanese and the English resources were released at a later date.

As I mentioned we have a few customers who already got a KHR3HV and have successfully built it and programmed it using the Japanese instructions and the English translations available for 1HV and 2HV.

Pedro.
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Post by PedroR » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:33 pm

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Further details, quoting the distributor:

"Dear Distributors,

Here is the documents for KHR-3HV (Japanese).

http://www.ixs.co.jp/download/manual/KH ... nual-J.pdf
http://www.ixs.co.jp/download/manual/HT ... nual-J.pdf
Now we are translating them to English.
"
Further details, quoting the distributor:

"Dear Distributors,

Here is the documents for KHR-3HV (Japanese).

http://www.ixs.co.jp/download/manual/KH ... nual-J.pdf
http://www.ixs.co.jp/download/manual/HT ... nual-J.pdf
Now we are translating them to English.
"
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Servo Compatibility

Post by Thex1138 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:25 am

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:25 am

Will the KHR-3 controller hand the supplied servos and AX-12 servos as well?
If not then will Roboard be able to handle both servo types?
Will the KHR-3 controller hand the supplied servos and AX-12 servos as well?
If not then will Roboard be able to handle both servo types?
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Post by PedroR » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:52 pm

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I find it hard that the KHR 3HV controller board supports AX-12 servos.
The protocol is most likelly differet (the serial protocol for KHR 3HV servos is UNKNOWN as this time) and in addition, the AX 12 servos use a one wire TTL interface.
I don't know how it is for KHR 3HV but I would believe it is two wires, full duplex.

With regads to the Roboard it already supports multiple servo types.

It has 4 UARTs, 1 RS232, 1 Full Duplex at TTL level and 1 Half Duplex at TTL level.
In addition it can control PWM servos while controlling the above.

You can use the Half Duplex UART to control the AX 12 and the Full Duplex UART to control the servos on KHR 3HV.

However please note two things: no sample code is available for KHR 3HV servos nor do we know anything about the serial protocol it uses.
In both cases (AX-12 and KHR 3HV servos) you will need to manually lower the speed of the servo communication to 115Kbps which is the maximum supported by the roboard. (Native AX 12 speed is 1Mbps and native KHR 3HV servo speed is 1.25Mbps).

The alternative is using USB2Dynamixel and USB to ICS adapters on the roboard if you want to use the servos at their native, full speed with the ROboard
I find it hard that the KHR 3HV controller board supports AX-12 servos.
The protocol is most likelly differet (the serial protocol for KHR 3HV servos is UNKNOWN as this time) and in addition, the AX 12 servos use a one wire TTL interface.
I don't know how it is for KHR 3HV but I would believe it is two wires, full duplex.

With regads to the Roboard it already supports multiple servo types.

It has 4 UARTs, 1 RS232, 1 Full Duplex at TTL level and 1 Half Duplex at TTL level.
In addition it can control PWM servos while controlling the above.

You can use the Half Duplex UART to control the AX 12 and the Full Duplex UART to control the servos on KHR 3HV.

However please note two things: no sample code is available for KHR 3HV servos nor do we know anything about the serial protocol it uses.
In both cases (AX-12 and KHR 3HV servos) you will need to manually lower the speed of the servo communication to 115Kbps which is the maximum supported by the roboard. (Native AX 12 speed is 1Mbps and native KHR 3HV servo speed is 1.25Mbps).

The alternative is using USB2Dynamixel and USB to ICS adapters on the roboard if you want to use the servos at their native, full speed with the ROboard
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Post by Thex1138 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:24 pm

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PedroR wrote:With regads to the Roboard it already supports multiple servo types.


Thanks Pedro

I am looking at Sparkfun and wondering if anyone has used any of their gyro/acc combo boards?

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9127

Or

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9431
PedroR wrote:With regads to the Roboard it already supports multiple servo types.


Thanks Pedro

I am looking at Sparkfun and wondering if anyone has used any of their gyro/acc combo boards?

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9127

Or

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9431
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Post by PedroR » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:35 pm

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Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:35 pm

Hi Thex

We have some 6 axis IMUs here http://robosavvy.com/store/advanced_sea ... =imu+6+dof and they should work with Roboard on the Full Duplex TTL COM.
However there are some considerations about voltage as they are 3.3V TTL and need 3.3V on Vdd.
I think Roboard has the TTL COM at 5V so you may need to use a Logic Level converter.

The 5 Dof IMU we have form SF will also work and this one has all Analog Outputs so you would need to connect them to the A/D ports on the Roboard.
Just make sure you have a pin on the roboard where you can get 3.3V (I think there should be one on the SPI connector but I'm not sure).

Regards
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Hi Thex

We have some 6 axis IMUs here http://robosavvy.com/store/advanced_sea ... =imu+6+dof and they should work with Roboard on the Full Duplex TTL COM.
However there are some considerations about voltage as they are 3.3V TTL and need 3.3V on Vdd.
I think Roboard has the TTL COM at 5V so you may need to use a Logic Level converter.

The 5 Dof IMU we have form SF will also work and this one has all Analog Outputs so you would need to connect them to the A/D ports on the Roboard.
Just make sure you have a pin on the roboard where you can get 3.3V (I think there should be one on the SPI connector but I'm not sure).

Regards
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Post by Thex1138 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:42 pm

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PedroR wrote:Hi Thex

We have some 6 axis IMUs here http://robosavvy.com/store/advanced_sea ... =imu+6+dof and they should work with Roboard on the Full Duplex TTL COM.
However there are some considerations about voltage as they are 3.3V TTL and need 3.3V on Vdd.
I think Roboard has the TTL COM at 5V so you may need to use a Logic Level converter.

The 5 Dof IMU we have form SF will also work and this one has all Analog Outputs so you would need to connect them to the A/D ports on the Roboard.
Just make sure you have a pin on the roboard where you can get 3.3V (I think there should be one on the SPI connector but I'm not sure).

Regards
Pedro.

Thanks Pedro! I will check them out.

I am looking to do some experimental automation with these things.
Have you implemented them along with Microsoft Robotics environment?
PedroR wrote:Hi Thex

We have some 6 axis IMUs here http://robosavvy.com/store/advanced_sea ... =imu+6+dof and they should work with Roboard on the Full Duplex TTL COM.
However there are some considerations about voltage as they are 3.3V TTL and need 3.3V on Vdd.
I think Roboard has the TTL COM at 5V so you may need to use a Logic Level converter.

The 5 Dof IMU we have form SF will also work and this one has all Analog Outputs so you would need to connect them to the A/D ports on the Roboard.
Just make sure you have a pin on the roboard where you can get 3.3V (I think there should be one on the SPI connector but I'm not sure).

Regards
Pedro.

Thanks Pedro! I will check them out.

I am looking to do some experimental automation with these things.
Have you implemented them along with Microsoft Robotics environment?
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Post by PedroR » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:39 pm

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Hi

I do not know about using the Roboard with MS Robotics Studio.

I know there are libraries for Labview in addition to the base RoboardIO Library (DLL).

I know you can use the board (and the sensors) with VS .Net though.

You may want to post on the Roboard forum asking about this specific interest in MS Robotics Studio. The forum is monitored by Roboard engineers so they may be able to give you additional information.

Regards
Pedro
Hi

I do not know about using the Roboard with MS Robotics Studio.

I know there are libraries for Labview in addition to the base RoboardIO Library (DLL).

I know you can use the board (and the sensors) with VS .Net though.

You may want to post on the Roboard forum asking about this specific interest in MS Robotics Studio. The forum is monitored by Roboard engineers so they may be able to give you additional information.

Regards
Pedro
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Post by PedroR » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:37 pm

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Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:37 pm

Hi all

Kondo has finally released the English Documentation for KHR 3HV.

The documentation currently available includes the KHR 3HV Users Manual and the Heart to Heart 4 Users Manual.

We are not authorized to distribute the manuals publicly at this point but we are suppling them - privately - to all future customers who purchase a KHR 3HV as well as previous customers who have purchased a KHR 3HV from us (Robosavvy).

Regards
Pedro
Hi all

Kondo has finally released the English Documentation for KHR 3HV.

The documentation currently available includes the KHR 3HV Users Manual and the Heart to Heart 4 Users Manual.

We are not authorized to distribute the manuals publicly at this point but we are suppling them - privately - to all future customers who purchase a KHR 3HV as well as previous customers who have purchased a KHR 3HV from us (Robosavvy).

Regards
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