eBox 3310MX-H (a 3350MX on steroids) on its way to RoboSavvy

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eBox 3310MX-H (a 3350MX on steroids) on its way to RoboSavvy

Post by PedroR » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:00 pm

Post by PedroR
Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:00 pm

Hi all

We wanted to let you know that we're expecting to receive a new member of the eBox family in our catalog. the 3310MX-H

The 3310MX (despite the numbering) is the bigger brother of the 3350MX:
it's larger, faster, has more memory and can use 2.5 SATA HDDs (Solid state or regular HDD).
The HDD is not included by default but the connector is in place so you can simply plug it in; SD card is still the default method to emulate an HDD on the 3310MX, the same approach used on the 3350MX.

The 3310MX retains the same features as the 3350MX but is larger (to support all the extras) and uses a newer revision of the Vortex processor: the Vortex86MX+

From the benchmarks we've seen, the MX+ version can have up to 50% more performance than the processor of the eBox 3350MX depending on the application (and the use of a 2.5" HDD).

The main Architecture difference bwetween the Vortex86MX and the Vortex86MX+ is that it doubles the memory bandwith (32 bit). This particular model also comes with 1Gb of RAM.

In practice it means the VGA memory is now shared with the main memory and other minor improvements boost the overal performance of the box.
(FPU performance is an area of great improvement from the benchmarks we've seen).

Performance on this new model is closer to the base FitPC2 version, still at a fraction of the price (it's expected to sell for 130 GBP + VAT; FitPC2 Lite retails for 229 + VAT, 100GBP more expensive)

We're very happy with the addition of the eBox line to our catalog.
We've had great experience with the products of DMP (starting with Roboard) and eBox is a natural extension, aimed at the consumer market.

Due to its size and weight, the 3310MX is not exactly in the Robotic arena - unless you're using a larger Rover - as it comes close to 500g and 11.5cm X 11.5cm X 3.5cm.

I'll be posting more news as we get the 3310MX in our warehouse and get our hands on one for testing and teardown :)

Regards
Pedro
Hi all

We wanted to let you know that we're expecting to receive a new member of the eBox family in our catalog. the 3310MX-H

The 3310MX (despite the numbering) is the bigger brother of the 3350MX:
it's larger, faster, has more memory and can use 2.5 SATA HDDs (Solid state or regular HDD).
The HDD is not included by default but the connector is in place so you can simply plug it in; SD card is still the default method to emulate an HDD on the 3310MX, the same approach used on the 3350MX.

The 3310MX retains the same features as the 3350MX but is larger (to support all the extras) and uses a newer revision of the Vortex processor: the Vortex86MX+

From the benchmarks we've seen, the MX+ version can have up to 50% more performance than the processor of the eBox 3350MX depending on the application (and the use of a 2.5" HDD).

The main Architecture difference bwetween the Vortex86MX and the Vortex86MX+ is that it doubles the memory bandwith (32 bit). This particular model also comes with 1Gb of RAM.

In practice it means the VGA memory is now shared with the main memory and other minor improvements boost the overal performance of the box.
(FPU performance is an area of great improvement from the benchmarks we've seen).

Performance on this new model is closer to the base FitPC2 version, still at a fraction of the price (it's expected to sell for 130 GBP + VAT; FitPC2 Lite retails for 229 + VAT, 100GBP more expensive)

We're very happy with the addition of the eBox line to our catalog.
We've had great experience with the products of DMP (starting with Roboard) and eBox is a natural extension, aimed at the consumer market.

Due to its size and weight, the 3310MX is not exactly in the Robotic arena - unless you're using a larger Rover - as it comes close to 500g and 11.5cm X 11.5cm X 3.5cm.

I'll be posting more news as we get the 3310MX in our warehouse and get our hands on one for testing and teardown :)

Regards
Pedro
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Post by PedroR » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:23 pm

Post by PedroR
Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:23 pm

Hi

The new eBox 3310MX-H units have arrived at RoboSavvy and we've been playing with one of them.

We must say we're really impressed with this device. We will publish a full review tomorrow (pictures are being uploaded to our Flickr account as I write this post).

Our initial impressions are very positive: the 3310MX follows the type of construction as the 3350MX but the 3310 is larger and a bit bulkier. It is also heavier, mostly due to the large heat sink on top.
This heat sink is also the responsible for most of the weight ot the 3350MX,

In terms of performance, on first boot we took the SD card from our 3350MX, inserted it onto the 3310 and it immediately booted into Ubuntu.
When running from SD card you can see the 3310 is faster but whenever HDD access is involved the 3310 slows down and exhibits the same performance as the 3350MX. This suggests that the SD card is a major bottleneck in terms of performance.

Therefore, we've installed a SATA HDD on the 3310 (it comes ready to install a 2.5" SATA HDD) and made some experiments.
We haven't yet installed Linux on the SATA HDD but you can use both the SD card and SATA at the same time (and select which one is the Primary IDE device where the eBox will boot from).

I don't want to spoil the surprise of the tear down tomorrow so I'll stop here.

There is much more to say so stay tuned for more news and pictures of a complete Teardown.

Regards
Pedro
Hi

The new eBox 3310MX-H units have arrived at RoboSavvy and we've been playing with one of them.

We must say we're really impressed with this device. We will publish a full review tomorrow (pictures are being uploaded to our Flickr account as I write this post).

Our initial impressions are very positive: the 3310MX follows the type of construction as the 3350MX but the 3310 is larger and a bit bulkier. It is also heavier, mostly due to the large heat sink on top.
This heat sink is also the responsible for most of the weight ot the 3350MX,

In terms of performance, on first boot we took the SD card from our 3350MX, inserted it onto the 3310 and it immediately booted into Ubuntu.
When running from SD card you can see the 3310 is faster but whenever HDD access is involved the 3310 slows down and exhibits the same performance as the 3350MX. This suggests that the SD card is a major bottleneck in terms of performance.

Therefore, we've installed a SATA HDD on the 3310 (it comes ready to install a 2.5" SATA HDD) and made some experiments.
We haven't yet installed Linux on the SATA HDD but you can use both the SD card and SATA at the same time (and select which one is the Primary IDE device where the eBox will boot from).

I don't want to spoil the surprise of the tear down tomorrow so I'll stop here.

There is much more to say so stay tuned for more news and pictures of a complete Teardown.

Regards
Pedro
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Post by eried » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:11 pm

Post by eried
Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:11 pm

Nice!

Also with the bigger ram you can set the EWF filter in XP!! less problems with pagefile, less issues with filling the ram because EWF cache.

Can you do a comparison, like a benchmark between these both?
Nice!

Also with the bigger ram you can set the EWF filter in XP!! less problems with pagefile, less issues with filling the ram because EWF cache.

Can you do a comparison, like a benchmark between these both?
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Post by PedroR » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:31 am

Post by PedroR
Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:31 am

Hi all

The Teardown is finally here http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32332#32332

In addition to a teardown we also compare it to eBox 3350MX, which I believe offers and interesting point of view for choosing which unit is best suited for one's needs.

The eBox 3310MX-H is in stock and available from our web store here http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... ts_id/1825

Regards
Pedro.
Hi all

The Teardown is finally here http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32332#32332

In addition to a teardown we also compare it to eBox 3350MX, which I believe offers and interesting point of view for choosing which unit is best suited for one's needs.

The eBox 3310MX-H is in stock and available from our web store here http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... ts_id/1825

Regards
Pedro.
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