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x86 Embedded Boards

Post by PaulL » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:30 pm

Post by PaulL
Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:30 pm

Interesting Option:

http://us.kontron.com/products/boards+and+mezzanines/embedded+sbc/pitx+25+sbc/pitxsp.html

Add one of these, and you have a 'bot controller:

http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1356

And a couple options from Compulab:

http://compulab.co.il/?page_id=1846

http://compulab.co.il/?page_id=665

I like the smaller size of the COM boards from Compulab, but I can't find anywhere to order small quantities. Only option would be to order a dev kit, and they don't have any way to order online. On top of that, the Compulab boards use two high density connectors for which a custom board would have to be made. The 4gb NAND flash is cool, as well as I2C / SPI and such depending on the model.

These kinds of boards are getting there. There are some embedded boards with dual cores, but they haven't shrunk them down enough to be viable for our small bipedal bots yet.
Interesting Option:

http://us.kontron.com/products/boards+and+mezzanines/embedded+sbc/pitx+25+sbc/pitxsp.html

Add one of these, and you have a 'bot controller:

http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1356

And a couple options from Compulab:

http://compulab.co.il/?page_id=1846

http://compulab.co.il/?page_id=665

I like the smaller size of the COM boards from Compulab, but I can't find anywhere to order small quantities. Only option would be to order a dev kit, and they don't have any way to order online. On top of that, the Compulab boards use two high density connectors for which a custom board would have to be made. The 4gb NAND flash is cool, as well as I2C / SPI and such depending on the model.

These kinds of boards are getting there. There are some embedded boards with dual cores, but they haven't shrunk them down enough to be viable for our small bipedal bots yet.
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Re: x86 Embedded Boards

Post by nicolas gomez » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:23 pm

Post by nicolas gomez
Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:23 pm

RN1AsOf091407 wrote:Interesting Option:

http://us.kontron.com/products/boards+and+mezzanines/embedded+sbc/pitx+25+sbc/pitxsp.html

Add one of these, and you have a 'bot controller:

http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1356

And a couple options from Compulab:

http://compulab.co.il/?page_id=1846

http://compulab.co.il/?page_id=665

I like the smaller size of the COM boards from Compulab, but I can't find anywhere to order small quantities. Only option would be to order a dev kit, and they don't have any way to order online. On top of that, the Compulab boards use two high density connectors for which a custom board would have to be made. The 4gb NAND flash is cool, as well as I2C / SPI and such depending on the model.

These kinds of boards are getting there. There are some embedded boards with dual cores, but they haven't shrunk them down enough to be viable for our small bipedal bots yet.



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here another mini pc

Topaz Single Board Computer based on Intel®Atom™E6xx

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http://blog.toradex.com/category/events/

http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7139

http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=21

http://www.adafruit.com/products/278

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the com boards usually need a carrier board that are more big and and are not suitable for bipeds robots and are more expensive than other of the same size
RN1AsOf091407 wrote:Interesting Option:

http://us.kontron.com/products/boards+and+mezzanines/embedded+sbc/pitx+25+sbc/pitxsp.html

Add one of these, and you have a 'bot controller:

http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1356

And a couple options from Compulab:

http://compulab.co.il/?page_id=1846

http://compulab.co.il/?page_id=665

I like the smaller size of the COM boards from Compulab, but I can't find anywhere to order small quantities. Only option would be to order a dev kit, and they don't have any way to order online. On top of that, the Compulab boards use two high density connectors for which a custom board would have to be made. The 4gb NAND flash is cool, as well as I2C / SPI and such depending on the model.

These kinds of boards are getting there. There are some embedded boards with dual cores, but they haven't shrunk them down enough to be viable for our small bipedal bots yet.



Hii!!
here another mini pc

Topaz Single Board Computer based on Intel®Atom™E6xx

phpBB [media]




http://blog.toradex.com/category/events/

http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7139

http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=21

http://www.adafruit.com/products/278

Image

the com boards usually need a carrier board that are more big and and are not suitable for bipeds robots and are more expensive than other of the same size
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Post by PaulL » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:09 am

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Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:09 am

The Toradex Topaz / xiilun (cased version) seems more like what I'm looking for: thin, and no bigger than 96mm x 56mm such as with the RB-100. Most of these boards end up fairly thick, the Kontron board I posted the link to has a memory card slot underneath, then the jacks and CMOS battery carrier board on top. It's tough to find something (or piece something together) with same / smaller dimensions than the RB-100, but I know at some point I'm going to want more CPU speed. :)

I wonder when they'll actually release the Toradex Topaz... :)
The Toradex Topaz / xiilun (cased version) seems more like what I'm looking for: thin, and no bigger than 96mm x 56mm such as with the RB-100. Most of these boards end up fairly thick, the Kontron board I posted the link to has a memory card slot underneath, then the jacks and CMOS battery carrier board on top. It's tough to find something (or piece something together) with same / smaller dimensions than the RB-100, but I know at some point I'm going to want more CPU speed. :)

I wonder when they'll actually release the Toradex Topaz... :)
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Post by nicolas gomez » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:04 pm

Post by nicolas gomez
Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:04 pm

RN1AsOf091407 wrote:The Toradex Topaz / xiilun (cased version) seems more like what I'm looking for: thin, and no bigger than 96mm x 56mm such as with the RB-100. Most of these boards end up fairly thick, the Kontron board I posted the link to has a memory card slot underneath, then the jacks and CMOS battery carrier board on top. It's tough to find something (or piece something together) with same / smaller dimensions than the RB-100, but I know at some point I'm going to want more CPU speed. :)

I wonder when they'll actually release the Toradex Topaz... :)


another board is raspberr py
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi


Raspberry Pi Linux Specs
SoC Broadcom BCM2835 (CPU, GPU, DSP, and SDRAM)
CPU: 700 MHz ARM1176JZF-S core (ARM11 family)
GPU: Broadcom VideoCore IV, OpenGL ES 2.0, 1080p30 h.264/MPEG-4 AVC high-profile decoder
GPU is capable of 1Gpixel/s, 1.5Gtexel/s or 24GFLOPs with texture filtering and DMA infrastructure

Memory (SDRAM): 256 Megabytes (MiB)
Video outputs: Composite RCA, HDMI
Audio outputs: 3.5 mm jack, HDMI
Onboard storage: SD, MMC, SDIO card slot
10/100 Ethernet RJ45 onboard network
Storage via SD/ MMC/ SDIO card slot

Low-level peripherals:
8 × GPIO, UART, I²C bus, SPI bus with two chip selects, +3.3 V, +5 V, Ground
Power ratings: 700 mA (3.5 W)

Power source: 5 volt via MicroUSB or GPIO header
Size: 8.5 × 5.3 cm
Operating Systems: Debian GNU/Linux, Fedore

http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi
but it its distribution is very slow and there are waiting list

in the next link and at the end of the post an updatee anothers mini pc

http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34618#34618
RN1AsOf091407 wrote:The Toradex Topaz / xiilun (cased version) seems more like what I'm looking for: thin, and no bigger than 96mm x 56mm such as with the RB-100. Most of these boards end up fairly thick, the Kontron board I posted the link to has a memory card slot underneath, then the jacks and CMOS battery carrier board on top. It's tough to find something (or piece something together) with same / smaller dimensions than the RB-100, but I know at some point I'm going to want more CPU speed. :)

I wonder when they'll actually release the Toradex Topaz... :)


another board is raspberr py
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi


Raspberry Pi Linux Specs
SoC Broadcom BCM2835 (CPU, GPU, DSP, and SDRAM)
CPU: 700 MHz ARM1176JZF-S core (ARM11 family)
GPU: Broadcom VideoCore IV, OpenGL ES 2.0, 1080p30 h.264/MPEG-4 AVC high-profile decoder
GPU is capable of 1Gpixel/s, 1.5Gtexel/s or 24GFLOPs with texture filtering and DMA infrastructure

Memory (SDRAM): 256 Megabytes (MiB)
Video outputs: Composite RCA, HDMI
Audio outputs: 3.5 mm jack, HDMI
Onboard storage: SD, MMC, SDIO card slot
10/100 Ethernet RJ45 onboard network
Storage via SD/ MMC/ SDIO card slot

Low-level peripherals:
8 × GPIO, UART, I²C bus, SPI bus with two chip selects, +3.3 V, +5 V, Ground
Power ratings: 700 mA (3.5 W)

Power source: 5 volt via MicroUSB or GPIO header
Size: 8.5 × 5.3 cm
Operating Systems: Debian GNU/Linux, Fedore

http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi
but it its distribution is very slow and there are waiting list

in the next link and at the end of the post an updatee anothers mini pc

http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34618#34618
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Post by PaulL » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:33 am

Post by PaulL
Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:33 am

I ended up ordering the Kontron PicoITX SP. I did a lot of searching, and this board seems to fit best. I ordered 2gb SODIMM to go with it. The memory is on backorder, so I haven't received the board yet (told them to hold the order until everything is available).

Processing power and power consumption tend to go hand-in-hand. There are other, faster boards out there, but they need bigger and bigger heatsinks and cooling solutions, and they kill amp-hours much more quickly. I believe this is the best solution for a 2S LiPo, small-size robot.

Another nice thing about this board compared to others is that it only needs 5v. Many SBC's need 12v.

The best news it that this board will be able to handle text-to-speech and voice recognition better than the RB-100. Unfortunately, the price is a good bit more than the Roboards: around $600 USD (and over 4x performance! Not bad for about twice the cost, I think).

Processor speed should be considerably faster than Roboard according to DMP's bench tests.
I ended up ordering the Kontron PicoITX SP. I did a lot of searching, and this board seems to fit best. I ordered 2gb SODIMM to go with it. The memory is on backorder, so I haven't received the board yet (told them to hold the order until everything is available).

Processing power and power consumption tend to go hand-in-hand. There are other, faster boards out there, but they need bigger and bigger heatsinks and cooling solutions, and they kill amp-hours much more quickly. I believe this is the best solution for a 2S LiPo, small-size robot.

Another nice thing about this board compared to others is that it only needs 5v. Many SBC's need 12v.

The best news it that this board will be able to handle text-to-speech and voice recognition better than the RB-100. Unfortunately, the price is a good bit more than the Roboards: around $600 USD (and over 4x performance! Not bad for about twice the cost, I think).

Processor speed should be considerably faster than Roboard according to DMP's bench tests.
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